WoW Forever Retribution Paladin Guide
Retribution Paladin is one of the strongest melee specs in WoW Forever, and it no longer plays like the auto-attack spec of Classic. Forever gave it a real button rotation: Holy Strike on a 10-second cooldown, a Judgement that no longer eats your Seal, and the new capstone Unsealed Wrath, which turns the old Seal twisting trick into a rhythm anyone can learn. Champion of the Light adds spell damage from your Intellect, so a Ret Paladin now wants Strength and spell power at the same time. The core is still the same, though: a slow two-hander and Seal of Command do most of your damage.
This guide is written for level 60 and the live game as of the November 11 hotfixes, which changed how Judgement and Unsealed Wrath work. ConquestCapped checked every Retribution talent against the Forever talent data on November 13, so the builds and numbers below follow the live game, not old Classic values. You will find where Ret stands among the damage dealers, the best race, a raid build and a dungeon build in talent calculators you can edit, the Legacy talents worth taking, the stat priority, the rotation with the Seal twist for every weapon speed, Blessings and Judgements in a raid, macros, common mistakes, enchants and consumables, gear and professions.
Is Retribution Paladin Good in WoW Forever?
Yes. ConquestCapped's WoW Forever tier list puts Retribution in S tier for raids, next to Fury Warrior, because Holy Strike, Seal of Command and Vengeance give it steady single-target damage that scales with both Strength and spell power. Simulations still disagree on the exact order of the melee specs, and nobody has fought a level 63 boss yet, so treat every ranking as a forecast until the raids open on December 9.
What makes Ret easy to bring is the rest of the Paladin kit. You buff the raid with Greater Blessing of Kings or Greater Blessing of Might, cover a resistance fight with an Aura and keep a Judgement on the boss for the whole group. The weak sides are Mana and area damage. The table sums up what Ret does well and where it struggles at 60.
| Strengths | Weaknesses |
|---|---|
| Strong single-target damage from Seal of Command and Unsealed Wrath | Weak area damage: Consecration is the only real AoE spell |
| Scales with Strength and spell power, so many caster pieces suit you | Mana-hungry: Seal swaps and Consecration drain you in long dungeon runs |
| Greater Blessing of Kings, Greater Blessing of Might and resistance Auras for the raid | No damage cooldown and no burst window in PvE |
| Plate armor, Divine Shield and Lay on Hands make you hard to kill | No interrupt and no snare |
| Extra damage on Undead and Demons with Exorcism | Needs a lot of Hit Chance and Expertise from gear before it shines |
Retribution vs Other Melee DPS
Fury Warrior is the main rival for a melee spot. It brings more raw damage in most simulations but no Blessings, while a Ret Paladin trades a little damage for raid buffs, Cleanse and a spare emergency healer. Arms Warrior and Combat Rogue sit close to Ret, and Enhancement Shaman fills a similar hybrid role with Windfury Totem. A raid usually takes one or two Ret Paladins for their Blessings and Judgements; every spot after that has to be won on damage. Our WoW Forever Fury Warrior guide shows how the strongest melee spec plays if you are still choosing a class.
Best Race for Retribution Paladin
Three races can be Paladins in Forever: Human and Dwarf on the Alliance and, for the first time, Undead on the Horde. The racials are close for a damage dealer, so pick the faction you want to play first. Here is what each race gives a Ret Paladin.
| Race | Faction | What It Gives a Retribution Paladin |
|---|---|---|
| Human | Alliance | Ruthless adds 1% critical strike chance to every attack and spell, and Will to Survive removes stuns |
| Dwarf | Alliance | Artisan's Precision adds 1% Hit Chance, and Stoneform removes bleeds, poisons and diseases |
| Undead | Horde | Touch of the Grave drains Health from your target on hit, Cannibalize restores Health and Mana between pulls, and Will of the Forsaken breaks fear |
Human is a slight favorite in simulations, since crit feeds Vengeance and Ruthless works with any weapon. Dwarf is just as good while your gear is short on hit, because 1% Hit Chance is worth more than 1% crit until you reach the cap. Undead is less than a percent behind and the only choice on the Horde, and Cannibalize saves you a drink after many dungeon pulls. Every Paladin race is compared for each spec in our best Paladin race in WoW Forever guide.
Retribution Paladin Talents at 60
Every serious Ret build takes the same 31 points in Retribution, all the way to Unsealed Wrath. The 20 points left go into Holy and Protection: Divine Strength for 10% more Strength, Improved Seals for 15% more Seal and Judgement damage, Holy Conduit for cheaper Hammer of Wrath and Exorcism, and then either more Hit Chance and Intellect for raids or more Mana tools for dungeons.
Best Retribution Paladin Raid Build: 12/8/31
This is the build for raid bosses. It adds Divine Intellect for 10% more Intellect, which Champion of the Light turns into spell damage, and 3/3 Precision for 3% Hit Chance on all your attacks and spells. Hit is the hardest stat to find on pre-raid gear, so these three points let you wear more Strength.
These talents shape how the spec plays.
- Seal of Command 1/1. Your main damage Seal: a chance on each swing to deal 70% of your weapon damage as Holy damage. The talent teaches rank 1, and the trainer sells the higher ranks up to rank 5 at level 60.
- Unsealed Wrath 1/1. The capstone. Every swing that lands stores a copy of your Seal, up to three, and a swing with a different Seal releases them all. How to use it is explained in the rotation section below.
- Champion of the Light 5/5. New in Forever: turns 60% of your Intellect into spell damage in the current talent data, and makes Hammer of Wrath instant.
- Sacred Arbiter 1/1. New in Forever: Holy Strike deals 20% more damage and refreshes every Judgement on the target, even those of other Paladins.
- Vengeance 3/3. After a critical strike, your Physical and Holy damage goes up for 30 sec, stacking up to 5 times. It needs Seal of Command.
- Two-Handed Weapon Specialization 3/3. 6% more Physical and Holy damage with a two-hander, and 20% less threat, your only threat reduction.
- Sanctified Judgement 3/3 and Benediction 5/5. Your Mana talents. Judgement returns 60% of the judged Seal's cost every time, and every instant spell costs 10% less.
- Conviction 3/3. 6% crit chance on all attacks and spells, which keeps Vengeance stacked.
The most common alternative moves two points from Precision into Reverence for more Mana regeneration while you cast Seals. Take it if your gear already reaches the hit cap without Precision, or if you run out of Mana before the boss dies.
Retribution Paladin Dungeon Build: 16/4/31
Dungeon bosses are level 62 at most, so you need less Hit Chance than against a raid boss, and long runs drain your Mana. This build swaps Precision for Reverence, which keeps 30% of your regeneration going between Seals, and Purifying Power, which takes a third off the cooldown of Exorcism and Holy Wrath. That makes a big difference in Stratholme and Scholomance, where most enemies are Undead.
The Retribution tree stays the same. If your group pulls big, use Consecration on every pack of three or more and let the tank hold the rest of the threat.
Shockadin: Holy Shock Instead of Unsealed Wrath
Shockadin is the second way to play a damage Paladin in Forever. It skips Unsealed Wrath and goes 23 points deep into Holy for Holy Shock, Consecrated Ground and Divine Precision, then fights with Seal of Righteousness only. You cannot have both: Unsealed Wrath needs 31 points in Retribution, Holy Shock needs 20 in Holy.
In one community simulation before launch, Shockadin did about 4% more damage than Unsealed Wrath against Humanoids and about 10% more against Demons, thanks to the shorter Exorcism cooldown. It wants a faster two-hander and more caster gear, and it has not been tested at 60 either. Play the style you enjoy; the gap is small and may change with tuning.
Retribution Talents to Skip
Some Retribution talents look useful but add nothing to your damage in PvE.
- Deflection and Eye for an Eye. Defensive talents for PvP.
- Vindication. Lowers the target's Attack Power. The tank or a Warrior usually covers that.
- Turn Evil. Only improves Turn Undead.
Our WoW Forever Paladin talents guide compares every talent in all three trees with its Classic version.
Legacy Talents for Retribution Paladin
Legacy talents are account-wide perks that you unlock by playing, and at 60 the best of them save a Paladin time and gold. Reagent Economy removes the Symbol of Kings cost from every Greater Blessing, and you will cast Greater Blessing of Kings or Greater Blessing of Might for the whole raid every week. Permanence makes your Blessings last twice as long. The Quick and the Dead makes your helpful spells free for 2 minutes after you are resurrected, so rebuffing after a wipe costs no Mana.
To reach those perks, the build also takes Gourmand, which makes food buffs last twice as long, and Reinforce for less durability loss on wipes. The last 3 points go into Diplomat for the reputations behind your gear and enchants. How every Legacy tree works is covered in our best WoW Forever Legacy talent builds guide.
Retribution Paladin Stat Priority
Ret damage comes from two sources at once. Your swings and Seal of Command scale with weapon damage and Strength, while every Holy hit, from Judgement to Hammer of Wrath, scales with spell damage, and Champion of the Light turns Intellect into more of it. Before any of that counts, your attacks have to land, because a swing that misses or is dodged cannot trigger a Seal or store one for Unsealed Wrath. This is the order for level 60 before the raids:
- Weapon damage: a slow two-hander with high top-end damage
- Hit Chance up to 8%
- Expertise up to 6.5%
- Strength and spell damage
- Intellect
- Critical Strike Chance
- Agility and Attack Power
The raid build's Precision gives 3% hit, so you need 5% from gear, or 4% as a Dwarf. Expertise lowers the chance that the boss dodges you; from behind, 6.5% removes dodges completely. Guides disagree on the middle of the list, and some still use 9% as a safe hit target, so treat the order as a starting point until someone tests it on a raid boss. Since November 11, Judgement counts as a ranged attack and uses your ranged hit chance, but hit on Forever gear is one stat for all attacks, so the cap does not change.
Every cap and the talents that add hit are explained in our WoW Forever hit cap guide, and how each reworked stat works in our WoW Forever stats and itemization guide.
Retribution Paladin Rotation and Cooldowns
Ret has a priority list, not a fixed sequence, and most of your damage still comes from white swings and Seal procs. Your job is to keep the Seal running, press your cooldowns as they come up and swap Seals at the right moment for Unsealed Wrath.
Single-Target Priority
Before the pull, put up Seal of the Crusader and judge it on the boss: the debuff adds Holy damage to every Holy hit the target takes, and Holy Strike with Sacred Arbiter keeps it up for the whole fight. If your raid lead assigns you Judgement of Wisdom or Light instead, judge that Seal once and let Holy Strike refresh it. Then switch to Seal of Command and follow this order:
- Judgement on cooldown. It no longer removes your Seal, so do not recast the Seal after it.
- Hammer of Wrath when the target is at 20% Health or less. It is instant with Champion of the Light 5/5.
- Holy Strike on cooldown, every 10 sec.
- Exorcism on cooldown against Undead and Demons.
- Seal swap for Unsealed Wrath once you have stored the right number of swings, explained below.
- Consecration only if your Mana allows it.
Avoid hard casts in melee range: a spell with a cast time resets your swing timer and costs you a white hit.
Seal Twisting with Unsealed Wrath by Weapon Speed
Unsealed Wrath stores a copy of your active Seal with every swing that lands, up to three, for 15 sec. The next swing that lands with a different Seal releases all the stored copies at once, and each stored Seal of Command rolls its own chance to proc. So the trick is to build copies in one Seal and cash them in with another. How many swings you spend in each Seal depends on your weapon speed. A simulation published on November 12 found that the wrong rhythm costs about 10% of your damage:
| Weapon Speed | Store | Then Swing Once With |
|---|---|---|
| 3.3 or slower | 3 swings in Seal of Command | Seal of Righteousness |
| 2.6 to 3.2 | 2 swings in Seal of Righteousness | Seal of Command |
| 2.5 or faster | 3 swings in Seal of Righteousness | Seal of Fury |
The same simulation found that riding Seal of Command without any swaps costs more than 10%, and that swapping on every swing also loses, because each swap costs a global cooldown and about 200 Mana. Most pre-raid two-handers, such as Arcanite Reaper and Nightfall, are 3.3 or slower, so the first row is the one most Ret Paladins use. A few details decide whether the twist works:
- Only swings that land store a copy. A miss, dodge or parry stores nothing, which is another reason Hit Chance comes first.
- Changing your main-hand weapon clears every stored copy.
- Holy Strike does not store or release copies. Since the November 11 hotfix, extra attacks from Windfury Totem do not store them either.
- Swap the Seal right after a swing lands, not just before the next one, so the new Seal is ready in time.
- Never judge Seal of Fury on a boss: its Judgement is a taunt.
The default interface now has a swing timer, and the Cooldown Manager can show your Unsealed Wrath stacks, so you can follow the rhythm without addons.
AoE and Cleave
Ret has little area damage. On three or more enemies, put Consecration first, right after Judgement: the first four enemies in it take extra damage. Against Undead or Demon packs, Holy Wrath adds damage and stuns them for 2 sec. On two targets, keep the single-target priority and let your swings do the work.
Cooldowns and Defensive Tools
Retribution has no damage cooldown in Forever, so use on-use trinkets and damage potions at the start of a fight and again when they come back. Your other buttons protect you and the group.
- Hammer of Justice and Repentance. Stuns and incapacitates also raise your damage: Judgement of Command deals double damage to a stunned or incapacitated target. Use them on trash in dungeons.
- Divine Shield. 12 sec of immunity, but your damage is halved while it lasts, and its Forbearance also blocks Blessing of Protection for 1 minute.
- Blessing of Protection. Saves a caster who pulled aggro from Physical attacks.
- Lay on Hands. A full heal on a 20-minute cooldown. It drains your Mana, so use it on a dying tank or healer, not on yourself mid-fight.
- Cleanse and Blessing of Freedom. Dispels and freedom from roots and snares for the group.
Mana Management
Mana is the limit of a Ret Paladin, especially in dungeons. Each Seal costs about 200 Mana at 60, and Unsealed Wrath has you casting two Seals over and over.
- Judge on cooldown: with Sanctified Judgement 3/3, every Judgement returns 60% of the judged Seal's cost.
- Drop Consecration first when your Mana runs low. It is the most expensive button you press.
- Ask for Blessing of Wisdom or put it on yourself in dungeons. In raids, a Judgement of Wisdom on the boss gives everyone who hits it a chance to regain Mana.
- Carry Major Mana Potion, Dark Rune and Demonic Rune for long fights.
- As Undead, use Cannibalize on a Humanoid or Undead corpse between pulls.
Blessings, Auras and Judgements in a Raid
Every raid wants several Paladins for their Blessings, and you will usually be told which one to cast. Each player can have one Blessing from each Paladin. In Forever, Greater Blessings cover every player of one class in the raid and last 1 hour, and so do the regular Blessings.
- Greater Blessing of Kings raises all stats by 10% and is the safe choice for every class.
- Greater Blessing of Might gives 133 Attack Power to Warriors, Rogues and Hunters, and Greater Blessing of Wisdom gives Mana to healers and casters.
- Blessing of Salvation is no longer taught, so damage dealers have to watch their own threat.
- Only one Aura per Paladin works on each player. Retribution Aura adds damage when your group is hit, and the resistance Auras such as Shadow Resistance Aura now reach the whole raid within 30 yards. Sanctity Aura is gone in Forever.
Each Paladin can keep one Judgement on the boss. Because Sacred Arbiter refreshes every Judgement on the target with each Holy Strike, a Ret Paladin is the best player to keep the raid's Judgements up for the whole fight.
Useful Macros for Retribution Paladin
Judgement and Holy Strike are the two buttons you press most, and many Ret players put them on one key. The macro casts Judgement when it is ready and Holy Strike when it is not:
#showtooltip Holy Strike /cast Judgement /cast Holy Strike
A mouseover Blessing of Protection saves the player who pulled aggro without losing your target:
#showtooltip /cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead] Blessing of Protection
Make the same macro for Cleanse and Blessing of Freedom, so you can dispel or free a raid member by pointing at their frame.
Retribution Paladin Mistakes to Avoid
These are the habits that cost a Ret Paladin the most damage or Mana in Forever.
- Recasting your Seal after Judgement. In Forever, Judgement keeps the Seal active.
- Using the Seal twist of another weapon speed, or never swapping at all.
- Skipping hit and Expertise for Strength. Every miss is a lost Seal proc and a lost Unsealed Wrath stack.
- Swapping weapons in combat, which clears your stored Seals.
- Casting Consecration on a single target when your Mana is tight.
- Judging Seal of Fury on a boss and taunting it off the tank.
- Building Ret around Holy Shock. It belongs to the Shockadin build and cannot be combined with Unsealed Wrath.
Enchants and Consumables for Retribution Paladin
Enchant the pieces you plan to keep through the raids. Because every Holy hit scales with spell damage, the spell power enchants new in Forever compete with the classic Strength ones, especially on the weapon. These are the strongest options before the raids:
| Slot | Best Enchant for Retribution Paladin |
|---|---|
| Two-hand weapon | Enchant Weapon - Crusader or Enchant 2H Weapon - Spellblasting |
| Head and legs | Lesser Arcanum of Voracity (Strength) |
| Neck | Enchant Necklace - Strength |
| Back | Enchant Cloak - Lesser Agility |
| Chest | Enchant Chest - Greater Stats |
| Wrist | Enchant Bracer - Superior Strength |
| Hands | Enchant Gloves - Greater Strength or Enchant Gloves - Holy Power |
| Feet | Enchant Boots - Greater Agility |
For raids, bring these consumables:
- Elixirs: Elixir of the Grizzly for 25 Strength and 2% crit, Greater Arcane Elixir for 35 spell damage, and one Attack Power elixir such as Juju Might or Winterfall Firewater.
- Flask: Flask of Supreme Power for spell damage, or Flask of Natural Precision, which lowers the chance to be dodged or parried by 2% inside Hyjal Summit and the Barrow Deeps.
- Weapon oil: Brilliant Wizard Oil for 36 spell damage and 1% spell crit.
- Food: Dragonbreath Chili, which belches fire at enemies you hit in melee.
- Potions and runes: Major Frenzy Potion for 80 Attack Power or Major Spellblasting Potion for 47 spell damage for 30 sec, plus Major Mana Potion, Dark Rune or Demonic Rune for Mana.
Where every formula drops is in our best enchants in WoW Forever guide.
Retribution Paladin Gear Overview
Your weapon matters more than any other item. Nightfall from Blacksmithing is the best pre-raid two-hander by far, and its debuff makes the target take more spell damage, which helps your own Holy hits as well as the casters in your group. Until you have it, Arcanite Reaper and the slow dungeon two-handers do the job.
A Paladin can wear cloth, leather, mail and plate with no penalty, and Forever adds no armor specialization bonus. That is why several of the best pre-raid pieces for Ret are leather with flat Hit Chance, and why Paladin-only plate with Strength and spell damage, like Vindicator's Belt, suits you better than any Warrior piece. In the raids that open on December 9, the Retribution tier set is Justice Battlegear.
Every slot with its alternatives is listed in our WoW Forever Retribution Paladin BiS guide, and the set bonuses of all three Paladin specs are in our WoW Forever Paladin tier set guide.
Best Professions for Retribution Paladin
Blacksmithing with Mining is the strongest pair for a Ret Paladin, because Blacksmiths craft Nightfall and Arcanite Reaper themselves and can sell them, since both bind on equip. Read our WoW Forever Blacksmithing guide for the route to 300.
Engineering is the best choice once your weapon is done. One simulation puts it about 2% ahead of other professions for Ret at 60, mostly thanks to Goblin Sapper Charge on packs. Alchemy with Herbalism saves gold on elixirs and Mana potions. As secondary professions, Cooking gives you the food buffs, and First Aid saves Mana between pulls.
More Guides for Your Retribution Paladin
These guides cover the rest of the Paladin in Forever: the class overview with all three specs, the best gear for every Ret slot, every talent change, the best race for each spec and where Retribution stands among all specs.
WoW Forever Retribution Paladin FAQ
These are the questions players ask most often about Retribution Paladin in WoW Forever.
Is Retribution Paladin good in WoW Forever?
Yes. ConquestCapped ranks it in S tier for raids, next to Fury Warrior. It deals steady single-target damage and brings Blessings, Judgements and Lay on Hands to the raid. Its weak points are area damage and Mana.
What is the best Retribution Paladin build in WoW Forever?
For raids, 12/8/31: the full Retribution tree to Unsealed Wrath, Divine Strength, Improved Seals and Holy Conduit in Holy, and Divine Intellect and Precision in Protection. For dungeons, the 16/4/31 version trades Precision for Reverence and Purifying Power.
How does Seal twisting work in WoW Forever?
Through Unsealed Wrath. Each swing that lands stores a copy of your Seal, up to three, and a swing with another Seal releases them. With a weapon of 3.3 speed or slower, swing three times in Seal of Command, then once in Seal of Righteousness.
Does Unsealed Wrath work with Holy Shock?
No. Unsealed Wrath needs 31 points in Retribution and Holy Shock needs 20 in Holy, so you choose one. Holy Strike does not store or release Seal copies either.
What is the hit cap for Retribution Paladin?
8% against a raid boss, with some guides using 9% to be safe. Precision gives 3%, so the raid build needs 5% from gear. Our WoW Forever hit cap guide explains every cap.
Should Retribution use a slow or a fast two-hander?
Use the best weapon you have and play the Seal twist for its speed. Most strong pre-raid two-handers are 3.3 or slower, so most Ret Paladins store three swings of Seal of Command. A one-hander is weaker, because Two-Handed Weapon Specialization only works with two-handers.
What is the best race for Retribution Paladin?
Human on the Alliance for 1% crit, with Dwarf almost equal thanks to 1% hit. On the Horde, Undead is the only Paladin race.
Is Retribution good for leveling?
Yes. Ret is the most common way to level a Paladin, and Unsealed Wrath opens at level 40. The full route to 60 is in our WoW Forever Paladin leveling guide.
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