WoW Forever Timbermaw Hold Reputation Guide
Timbermaw Hold is the furbolg reputation of Felwood and Winterspring, and it is one of the long grinds of the endgame. In WoW Forever it is worth more than it was in Classic. The Exalted trinket has half the cooldown and forms a set with a new trinket from Mount Hyjal, Meilosh's recipes were reworked, and a new quest line in Azshara with the dungeon Blackmaw Hold gives over 2,000 reputation that did not exist before.
Below, we cover how the reputation is earned, every quest that gives it, the rewards at each rank and the fastest way to Exalted. Where the live game has not been tested yet, we say so.
Timbermaw Hold at a Glance
| Detail | Timbermaw Hold |
|---|---|
| Where | The tunnel between Felwood, Moonglade and Winterspring |
| Quartermaster | Meilosh, inside the Hold, Felwood 65.4, 2.8 |
| You start at | Hostile in Classic, 500 points below Unfriendly. Not confirmed for WoW Forever |
| Kills | 5 reputation per Deadwood or Winterfall furbolg, 15 to 25 for the named ones |
| Repeatable | 5 Deadwood Headdress Feather or 5 Winterfall Spirit Beads for 50 reputation |
| Quests | About 1,000 from the classic quests and about 2,300 from the new Azshara and Blackmaw Hold quests |
| Main rewards | Recipes at Friendly, Honored and Revered, Defender of the Timbermaw at Exalted |
How to Earn Timbermaw Hold Reputation
The furbolgs of the Hold do not trust strangers. Until you are Unfriendly, they attack you in the tunnel, and they talk to you only from Neutral. You win them over by killing their corrupted cousins, the Deadwood in Felwood and the Winterfall in Winterspring, and by handing in what those tribes carry.
Kills
| Camp | Enemies | Level | Reputation |
|---|---|---|---|
| Deadwood Village, southern Felwood (48, 91) | Deadwood Warrior, Deadwood Gardener, Deadwood Pathfinder; Overlord Ror; Ragepaw, rare | 48–51 | 5; 15 for Ror; 25 for Ragepaw |
| Felpaw Village, northern Felwood (62, 9) | Deadwood Den Watcher, Deadwood Shaman, Deadwood Avenger; Chieftain Bloodmaw | 53–56 | 5; 15 for Bloodmaw |
| Western camps, Winterspring (30–42, 35–45) | Winterfall Pathfinder, Winterfall Totemic, Winterfall Den Watcher | 53–56 | 5 |
| Winterfall Village, Winterspring (67, 37) | Winterfall Shaman, Winterfall Ursa, Winterfall Den Watcher; High Chief Winterfall, elite; Grizzle Snowpaw, rare | 55–59 | 5; 25 for the High Chief and Grizzle |
Kills do not carry you all the way. The Wowhead pages for the normal furbolgs say that their reputation stops at Honored, while Classic guides and old player reports put the stop at Revered. Nobody has tested it on the live WoW Forever servers yet. The named enemies, Overlord Ror, Chieftain Bloodmaw and High Chief Winterfall, show no limit. Do not attack the Timbermaw themselves: each one you kill costs 25 reputation or more.
Repeatable Turn-ins
The Deadwood drop the Deadwood Headdress Feather and the Winterfall the Winterfall Spirit Beads. Five of either are worth 50 reputation and about 560 experience, as often as you like. Both items bind when picked up, so they cannot be bought.
| Quest | Who | Where | Opens after |
|---|---|---|---|
| Feathers for Grazle | Grazle | Southern Felwood, 51, 85 | Timbermaw Ally |
| Feathers for Nafien | Nafien | Felwood entrance of the Hold, 64.8, 8.2 | Deadwood of the North |
| Beads for Salfa | Salfa | Winterspring exit of the Hold, 27.8, 34.4 | Winterfall Activity |
In Classic, feathers and beads started to drop only after you had done the kill quest of that camp, so take the three kill quests first. The feathers drop best in Felpaw Village: Wowhead's first Forever numbers show about one in three kills there against one in ten in Deadwood Village. Beads are rarer, at 5% to 10% in the same early data.
Felwood: Deadwood Village (1), Grazle (2), Felpaw Village (3), Nafien at the tunnel (4) and Meilosh inside the Hold (5)
Winterspring: Salfa at the tunnel exit (1), the western Winterfall camps (2) and Winterfall Village (3)
Classic Quests
| Quest | From | What you do | Reputation |
|---|---|---|---|
| Timbermaw Ally | Grazle | Kill 6 Deadwood Warriors, 6 Pathfinders and 6 Gardeners | 150 |
| Speak to Nafien | Grazle | Go to the Felwood entrance of the Hold | 25 |
| Deadwood of the North | Nafien | Kill 6 Deadwood Den Watchers, 6 Avengers and 6 Shamans | 150 |
| Speak to Salfa | Nafien | Run through the Hold to Winterspring | 25 |
| Winterfall Activity | Salfa | Kill 8 Winterfall Shamans, 8 Den Watchers and 8 Ursa in Winterfall Village | 150 |
| Deadwood Ritual Totem | A totem that drops in Felpaw Village, handed in to Kernda | Needs Neutral. Reward: 2 Major Healing and 2 Major Mana Potions | 150 |
| Winterfall Ritual Totem | A totem that drops from the Winterfall, handed in to Kernda | Needs Neutral and level 50. Reward: 3 of each potion | 150 |
| Runecloth | Meilosh | Bring 30 Runecloth | 100 |
| Sacred Cloth | Meilosh | Bring 2 Mooncloth. Teaches Mooncloth Boots | 100 |
| The Root of All Evil | Gorn One Eye | At Exalted: summon and kill a demon. Reward: Defender of the Timbermaw | 200 |
New in WoW Forever: Azshara and Blackmaw Hold
The Blackmaw furbolgs of Azshara are allies of the Timbermaw, and the satyrs have overrun their den. Their quests give Timbermaw Hold reputation, and so do the quests of the new level 55 to 60 dungeon. Players report that the first Azshara quests need Neutral and the dungeon quests Friendly. Gatekeeper Rageroar stands at 42.4, 20.2 in Azshara.
| Quest | From | What you do | Reputation |
|---|---|---|---|
| The Legashi Threat | Ekkal | Kill 5 Legashi Satyrs, 5 Rogues and 5 Hellcallers. Listed for the Alliance, level 47 | 100 |
| Legashi Horns | Handed in to Ekkal | Bring 5 Severed Legashi Horns | 100 |
| Report to Rageroar | Ekkal | Speak to Gatekeeper Rageroar | 100 |
| Missing Blackmaw Scouts | Gatekeeper Rageroar | Find Korsa | 25 |
| Master Feardred | Korsa | Kill Master Feardred and take his amulet | 100 |
| Thinning Their Forces | Korsa | Kill Legashi Hellraisers, Soulstealers and Blackguards | 100 |
| Later, Satyr | Graal | Free Graal | 100 |
| Return to Rageroar | Korsa | Report to Gatekeeper Rageroar | 25 |
| Timbermaw Reinforcements | Gatekeeper Rageroar | Speak to Gorn One Eye in Timbermaw Hold | 50 |
| Chieftain Bloodmaw | Gorn One Eye | Kill Chieftain Bloodmaw in Felpaw Village and bring Bloodmaw's Basher | 100 |
| Blackmaw Counter-Offensive | Gorn One Eye | Plant the Timbermaw War Banner and kill Prince Halanox. Elite | 150 |
| Encroaching Corruption | Furze | Speak to Elder Bramblesnap | 10 |
| An Unlikely Source | Elder Bramblesnap | Find the Legashi Cauldron | 100 |
| Toil and Trouble | Legashi Cauldron | Find the Legashi Firewater Recipe. It drops from the satyrs nearby | 100 |
| Felfire Burn, Cauldron Bubble | Legashi Cauldron | Bring 5 Satyrweed and a Fel Mote | 100 |
| Running Firewater | Legashi Cauldron | Reward: Recipe: Distilled Firewater | 100 |
| Transmuted Tincture | Elder Bramblesnap | Reward: Manual: Powerful Poultice | 100 |
| Potential Panacea | Elder Bramblesnap | You choose one of three rewards | 50 |
| Blackmaw Reclamation | Gatekeeper Rageroar | Dungeon: bring the head of Varrox Bleakhoof | 150 |
| The Twin Bears | Lorekeeper Nok | Dungeon: the totems of Ursoc and Ursol | 150 |
| Claws That Rend, Tusks that Gore | Ogtinc | Dungeon: Claws of the Great Bear and Tusks of the Unbroken | 150 |
| A Lost Memento | An item in the dungeon | Dungeon: the Feathered Charm Necklace | 100 |
| Blackmaw Pouches | Ekkal | Dungeon: recover 5 Blackmaw Pouches. Requires level 55 | 150 |
The dungeon itself is in our WoW Forever Blackmaw Hold guide. Wowhead does not show whether Legashi Horns and Blackmaw Pouches can be repeated.
Azshara: Gatekeeper Rageroar (1) at the Blackmaw den
Timbermaw Hold Rewards by Rank
Meilosh stands inside the Hold where the three tunnels meet. WoW Forever reworked his list: the two belt and boot plans for blacksmiths are now leatherworking patterns, most recipes need less skill, and several crafted items have new stats.
| Rank | Recipe | Profession | What it makes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Friendly | Recipe: Transmute Earth to Water | Alchemy 275 | Essence of Earth into Essence of Water |
| Friendly | Formula: Enchant 2H Weapon - Agility | Enchanting 290 | +25 Agility on a two-handed weapon |
| Friendly | Pattern: Warbear Harness | Tribal Leatherworking 250, was 275 | Chest: 11 Strength, 18 Agility, 27 Stamina |
| Friendly | Pattern: Warbear Woolies | Tribal Leatherworking 260, was 285 | Legs: 28 Strength, 18 Agility, 12 Stamina |
| Honored | Formula: Enchant Weapon - Agility | Enchanting 290 | +15 Agility on a weapon |
| Honored | Pattern: Heavy Timbermaw Belt | Leatherworking 265, was Blacksmithing 290 | Mail belt: 9 Stamina, 42 attack power |
| Honored | Pattern: Might of the Timbermaw | Leatherworking 265, was 290 | Belt: 21 Strength, 14 Agility, 9 Stamina |
| Honored | Pattern: Wisdom of the Timbermaw | Tailoring 255, was 290 | Belt: 14 Intellect, 9 Spirit, 31 healing and 11 spell damage |
| Revered | Pattern: Heavy Timbermaw Boots | Leatherworking 295, was Blacksmithing 300 | Mail boots: 21 Stamina, 20 attack power |
| Revered | Pattern: Timbermaw Brawlers | Leatherworking 295, was 300 | Gloves: 21 Strength, 14 Agility, 9 Stamina |
| Revered | Pattern: Mantle of the Timbermaw | Tailoring 290, was 300 | Shoulders: 13 Intellect, 1% critical strike, 17 spell power |
| Revered | Plans: Stormcarver | Blacksmithing 300, new | Two-handed axe: 15 Strength, 11 Stamina, 32 spell power |
| Revered | Plans: Bagh Nakh | Blacksmithing 300, new | Fist weapon: 13 Agility, 5 Stamina |
The recipes cost between 1 gold 58 silver and 4 gold 21 silver. The two new plans require Revered in their tooltips, but they are not in Meilosh's list on Wowhead, so where they are sold is not confirmed. Gorn One Eye sells the off-hand items Furbolg Medicine Pouch and Furbolg Medicine Totem. The enchanting formulas are the reason most players stop at Honored: see our best enchants guide.
Defender of the Timbermaw
At Exalted, Gorn One Eye gives the quest The Root of All Evil, and its reward is the Defender of the Timbermaw. The trinket calls a Timbermaw Ancestor that fights at your side and heals you for 20 seconds. The cooldown is 5 minutes in WoW Forever, down from 10 in Classic. It also forms the set Teachings of the Furbolgs with the Defender of the Barkskin, the Exalted trinket of the Barkskin Burrow on Mount Hyjal: with both equipped, your attacks can give 40 attack power and your healing spells 20 Intellect for 15 seconds. The second half of the set is in our Barkskin Burrow reputation guide.
Fastest Way to Exalted
- Kill your way to Unfriendly, then Neutral. From the Classic starting point, that is 100 kills to stop the attacks in the tunnel and 700 kills to Neutral. Start in Deadwood Village with Timbermaw Ally from Grazle.
- Do the three kill quests in order. Timbermaw Ally, Deadwood of the North and Winterfall Activity open the feather and bead turn-ins.
- Hand in the two ritual totems at Neutral and the Runecloth at Meilosh.
- Go to Azshara at Neutral. The Blackmaw chain and, from Friendly, the Blackmaw Hold quests are the biggest block of quest reputation in the game for this faction.
- Farm Felpaw Village. It has the best feather drops, a named enemy worth 15 reputation and Runecloth as a side income.
- Save feathers and beads. Keep them in the bank while kills still give reputation, and hand them in when the kills stop.
- Finish with turn-ins. The last stretch is feathers and beads only.
How long the last stretch is depends on where the kills stop. From Revered to Exalted you need 21,000 reputation, which is 2,100 feathers or beads. If kills stop at Honored, as the Wowhead pages say, it is 33,000 reputation and 3,300 items. That is why you should check the combat log when you reach Honored: if a furbolg still gives 5 reputation, keep killing and keep saving.
Two things changed for the numbers. Humans no longer have the Diplomacy racial in WoW Forever, so nobody gets 10% for free. The Legacy perk Diplomat takes its place: 2% more reputation per rank, 10% at five ranks, for every character on your account. Our Legacy builds guide shows where it fits.
Tips for the Timbermaw Grind
- Kills are shared, drops are not. In a group, everyone gets the reputation for a kill, but feathers and beads go to one player. Group up for the kill phase and farm alone for the item phase.
- The southern Felwood camp is quieter. Deadwood Village has lower enemies and fewer players. Felpaw Village has better drops and more competition.
- Winterfall Village has Rich Thorium Veins and the High Chief, an elite worth 25 reputation.
- The western Winterspring camps are less contested than Winterfall Village, if you only need beads.
- Sell what the furbolgs carry. Runecloth, Winterfall Firewater and E'ko sell on the Auction House and pay for the grind.
- On a PvP realm, expect the other faction. The camps are small, and both sides want the same enemies.
- Run through the tunnel, do not fight. Until Unfriendly, the furbolgs in the Hold attack you. Killing one, even in self-defense, costs reputation.
If you want the reputation without the weeks of farming, see our WoW Forever reputation services.
Timbermaw Hold FAQ
These are the questions players ask most often about the Timbermaw Hold reputation.
How do you get Timbermaw Hold reputation in WoW Forever?
Kill Deadwood furbolgs in Felwood and Winterfall furbolgs in Winterspring for 5 reputation each, hand in 5 Deadwood Headdress Feather or 5 Winterfall Spirit Beads for 50, and do the quests in Felwood, Winterspring and Azshara.
Where is the Timbermaw Hold quartermaster?
Meilosh stands inside Timbermaw Hold, at the point where the tunnels to Felwood, Moonglade and Winterspring meet. On the Felwood map that is 65.4, 2.8.
Should you save feathers and beads?
Yes. Kills stop giving reputation at some point, and feathers and beads do not. Hand them in after the kills have stopped, so you do not waste kills you could still use.
What do you get at Exalted with Timbermaw Hold?
The quest The Root of All Evil, which rewards the Defender of the Timbermaw trinket. In WoW Forever it has a 5-minute cooldown and a set bonus with the Defender of the Barkskin.
Does Blackmaw Hold give Timbermaw Hold reputation?
Yes. The dungeon quests give 100 to 150 each, and the Blackmaw quest line in Azshara gives over 1,500 more.
Do humans get bonus reputation in WoW Forever?
No. The Diplomacy racial is not in WoW Forever. The Legacy perk Diplomat gives up to 10% more reputation to any character.
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